Feynman on Scientific Method.

When a planner tells you that urbanizing the Bay Area will REDUCE greenhouse gases and traffic, ask about his PROOF.

The simple fact is that the iconic city of "smart growth", Portland, Oregon has INCREASED traffic,  HIGHER housing prices and REDUCED mass transit use.

Before we destroy the Bay Area through hypergrowth, we should  LOOK AT THE DATA in other cities who have tried the strategies in other cities around the world.